| --- Day changed Thu May 02 2013 | ||
| ToAruShiroiNeko | juiceme okay | 01:31 |
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| ToAruShiroiNeko | I seem to have MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan PR1.3 40.2012.21-3_PR_001 | 01:31 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | I need to find a bin file for it | 01:32 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | where should I look? | 01:32 |
| rikanee | ToAruShiroiNeko: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ewm054thvbaiw11/B8_-fSbA5p | 01:40 |
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| ToAruShiroiNeko | I have DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin | 03:21 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | is that the file I need? | 03:21 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to have dual boot android & meego without the scary warning on boot | 03:22 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to wipe my phone clean of any data | 03:22 |
| rikanee | you need that and EMMC file | 04:16 |
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| ToAruShiroiNeko | EMMC file? | 05:09 |
| @juiceme | morning | 07:26 |
| Jonni | juiceme: you can take gnd even from the sim shield that covers the whole thingie, I'll try to shoot an example video in evening if I have time... | 09:40 |
| Jonni | I just tested that it works with the example usb adapter that I pasted a while back.... | 09:42 |
| @juiceme | Jonni, thanks. I made this kind of adapter: http://www.swagman.org/juice/basekuvat/serial_adapter.jpg | 11:02 |
| @juiceme | Basically it's just 3 contacts ripped of a broken phone's SIM holder and wired to a wrapboard to the (hopefully) correct position | 11:03 |
| @juiceme | The pins on the upright are the Rx & Tx pins, and the lowest contact is the GND | 11:03 |
| @juiceme | Now the mechanical dimensions _seem_ to be OK, and the contacts should touch the correct pins. | 11:04 |
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| Jonni | juiceme: and your red wire connects to rxd on usb adapter, I assume? | 11:20 |
| @juiceme | The red wire goes to USB adapter Rx, yes | 11:21 |
| @juiceme | meaning, the USB adapter is listening on the pin that's closest to the edge in the device | 11:22 |
| Jonni | that looks pretty ok, if your having troubles with gnd, then you could just take the gnd from otherside of the wrapboard, as the whole sim shield is gnd | 11:22 |
| @juiceme | ok. | 11:23 |
| @juiceme | The GND is not the most difficult, it's the Tx pin that's behind the Rx pin in the connector edge :) | 11:24 |
| @juiceme | As you see I took that pin from the other side of the board :) | 11:24 |
| Jonni | well yes if you want to write someting, but just for reading the serial output is easy :) | 11:24 |
| @juiceme | anyways, Tx is not needed for basic listening on the serial connection, just in case I need to get to console | 11:25 |
| @juiceme | yes | 11:25 |
| @juiceme | What kind of output should I expect to see there if it works correctly? | 11:25 |
| @juiceme | from the moment I switch it on | 11:26 |
| Jonni | full kernel boot messages, just like you would boot ubuntu | 11:26 |
| @juiceme | allright. Then my contacts propably are not making contact. | 11:27 |
| @juiceme | If I just gently short my Rx&Tx contacts together with pencil I can see what I type in minicom, so I know the adapter works | 11:27 |
| @juiceme | however when I slot it into N9, nothing | 11:28 |
| @juiceme | comms is 115200 8N1 | 11:28 |
| Jonni | yep 115200 8n1, and without flow control, some people forget to remove flow control from default settings | 11:29 |
| @juiceme | yes, it's that. | 11:29 |
| @juiceme | The levels are 3v3 TTL, riht? | 11:29 |
| Jonni | well most nokia devices are 2.8V | 11:30 |
| @juiceme | because I made the adapter from USB CA-42 | 11:30 |
| @juiceme | well I guess it's almost the same, or is it not? | 11:30 |
| @juiceme | could it be so picky? | 11:31 |
| Jonni | most likely CA-42 will not work, atleast I doubt that it would tbe ttl | 11:31 |
| @juiceme | ah-oh :( | 11:31 |
| @juiceme | Can you suggest a replacement? | 11:31 |
| Jonni | hmm or it migth work, just did some googling | 11:31 |
| @juiceme | Well it's used a lot in many do-it-yourself projects... | 11:32 |
| Jonni | http://www.ebay.ie/itm/251159428933 and http://www.ebay.ie/itm/370781332756 | 11:33 |
| Jonni | atleast both of them seems to work with N9 | 11:33 |
| Jonni | 1st link seems to have better autodetection and work with more voltages than the later one | 11:33 |
| @juiceme | allright, I'll put an order for that. | 11:34 |
| Jonni | 2303hx chip on those can be modified to work on any voltage though, the pin4 can be used to force ttl level. | 11:37 |
| Jonni | so they are usefull for other diy projects as well | 11:38 |
| @juiceme | yes. Just ordered 3 of those, just in case :) | 11:38 |
| Jonni | (second link has the 2303hx) | 11:39 |
| @juiceme | Now i'll just have to wait 2 weeks to get the shipment I guess... That's about the normal delivery time | 11:39 |
| @juiceme | ah | 11:39 |
| @juiceme | I did place an order for the first linked adapter... | 11:39 |
| Jonni | but anyways they both work. And 1st one has better autodetection so usually you dont need to modify it | 11:40 |
| @juiceme | So do you think the first (this one http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251159428933) works? | 11:40 |
| @juiceme | ok, good to know | 11:40 |
| Jonni | it should autodetect between 1.8V-5V | 11:40 |
| Jonni | well I just tested that 933 device with N9 this morning and it worked | 11:42 |
| @juiceme | Meanwhile I will recheck my adapter physically, to see if the problems I had were just in the contacts... | 11:42 |
| @juiceme | Can you post a picture of your adapter, what kind of mechanical construction you have? | 11:43 |
| @juiceme | It would be nicest if thee was some kind of connector that could be easily adapted to fit that slot on N9... | 11:43 |
| Jonni | well sim connector could be in theory tuned for it. http://rainisto.com/13050001.jpg just posting and example how that red adapter can red rx easily without any welding just by using simple jumper cables from here http://www.ebay.ie/itm/281012713688 | 11:58 |
| Jonni | red=read | 11:58 |
| Jonni | just by connecting red gnd to side of the sim shield, and rx to 1st pin in the left. | 11:59 |
| Jonni | http://rainisto.com/13050002.jpg shows what kind of output you can exptect to see | 12:01 |
| Jonni | so there are few extra lines that are not appearing on dmesg :) | 12:02 |
| @juiceme | Allright, I'll just try to plain connect the Rx & GND pins there carefully and see if I can see anything that way (altough I am pretty sure my adapter board makes good contact...) | 12:07 |
| @juiceme | And if not, I know the levels on CA-42 are wrong. | 12:07 |
| @juiceme | btw I remember that you said sometime earlier that there's also some kind of console interface in NOLO, so is there something that can be tuned there? Or some boot options that can be set etc..? | 12:09 |
| Jonni | there is no interface for nolo, that is protected. | 12:10 |
| @juiceme | ah, ok. | 12:10 |
| Jonni | you can drop to console from early stage of preinit | 12:10 |
| Jonni | and console also works from moslo and ubiboot, so you dont have to telnet in | 12:10 |
| @juiceme | yes, yhat I have deduced from looking at /sbin/preinit | 12:10 |
| @juiceme | but nothing to connect to before the first kernel runs preinit...? | 12:11 |
| @juiceme | Too bad there's not a loader interface like on so many wlab boxes, for example | 12:12 |
| @juiceme | s/wlab/wlan/ | 12:12 |
| Jonni | well... yes and no, you can flash the firmware over serial console if you have internal version of the flasher, but publicly no. | 12:13 |
| @juiceme | OK, but I guess it requires some authentication to do that. | 12:14 |
| Jonni | not really, its just security by obscurity of non public api's :) | 12:15 |
| @juiceme | And is it so that even that cannot do if CAL is wiped? (like happened to your one device sometime back?) | 12:15 |
| @juiceme | ah. | 12:15 |
| Jonni | well you can recover from cal wipe, if you happend to have access to certificate signing server, but nowadays nobody has access anymore as all the people were fired :) | 12:16 |
| @juiceme | yes, too bad really since Nokia till claims that N9 is supported device. | 12:17 |
| Jonni | well they do support, they give you a new device back if cal is wiped :) | 12:18 |
| Jonni | and they updated twitter :) | 12:18 |
| @juiceme | is that so, really? Since I thought the N9 production lines have been dismantled and there are no new devices manuufactured any more... Well I suppose they have some devices in store somewhere just for that purpose. | 12:19 |
| @juiceme | Yes, the twitter update was a surprise :) | 12:20 |
| Jonni | lets see if they update dropbox someday, as accounts plugin is still using the obsoleted oauth api | 12:21 |
| @juiceme | Funny though there's not been security updates, as those should be priority IMHO to application updates. | 12:22 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | juiceme what EMMC file would I need in my case? | 15:28 |
| ToAruShiroiNeko | I have MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan PR1.3 40.2012.21-3_PR_001 | 15:28 |
| Jonni | ToAruShiroiNeko: that depends what region you are in, for me I like to have scandinavian maps, so I use DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.NORTHERNEUROPE_EMMC_NORTHERNEUROPE.bin | 17:24 |
| Jonni | and people from usa would use DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.NORTHAMERICA_EMMC_NORTHAMERICA.bin | 17:26 |
| @juiceme | ToAruShiroiNeko, I just checked that NaviFirm seems to be still working, even though it was claimed not to be on-line any longer. | 18:28 |
| @juiceme | Just download the matching firmware and emmc from there... | 18:29 |
| @juiceme | ToAruShiroiNeko, tell me what's your variant and I can give you download links to FW & EMMC | 18:30 |
| @juiceme | (the number that's written in iour sim tray...) | 18:31 |
| @juiceme | TMavica, Now I finally got to fix the channel log as you requested way back.. (I think it was almost 3 weeks ago... where does all the time go?) | 19:24 |
| @juiceme | Anyway, now the log splits in chunks for each day. | 19:25 |
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