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| @juiceme | morning :) | 08:32 |
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| valdur55 | Morning :P | 08:33 |
| @juiceme | sup | 08:33 |
| valdur55 | Today I install Nemo on my mobile :) | 08:33 |
| @juiceme | good :) | 08:34 |
| @juiceme | that the first time? | 08:34 |
| valdur55 | Yea. | 08:34 |
| valdur55 | I have used Android on this phone... Android is not my cup of tea... | 08:34 |
| @juiceme | ya, it's somehow not quite what you would expect. | 08:35 |
| valdur55 | Is it safe to install nemo like a Nitroid? | 08:35 |
| valdur55 | to /nemo/folder | 08:35 |
| @juiceme | no, you have to have it on a dedicated partition | 08:36 |
| @juiceme | word of caution, do not use http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-n950/ release :) | 08:36 |
| @juiceme | it's broken... | 08:36 |
| valdur55 | I downloaded http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1/nemo-armv7hl-n900/nemo-armv7hl-n900-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 for N9 | 08:38 |
| @juiceme | could be OK. I used 0.20130218.0.1.NEMO.2013-02-15.1 myself | 08:39 |
| valdur55 | SHould i use N900 image on Nokia N9 | 08:39 |
| @juiceme | nope, N950 is the correct image | 08:40 |
| valdur55 | Ouch :) | 08:41 |
| valdur55 | Yea. I misreaded it: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N9 | 08:41 |
| @juiceme | and when you have the partition set up, the *.tar.bz2 is the only image you need, ubiboot will do the rest. | 08:41 |
| @juiceme | of course first you need to set up the partition (usually p4) in your device using MOSLO | 08:42 |
| valdur55 | OK. It means that ... Harmattan's rootfs will be flashed? | 08:45 |
| @juiceme | hmm, no, what do you mean exactly? | 08:47 |
| @juiceme | when you split the partition, the p4 will be carved out of your p1 (MyDocs) | 08:48 |
| valdur55 | Ok. Good. Then i should cleanup MyDocs part. | 08:48 |
| valdur55 | Irw. I made reboot and saw notifycation: There is a problem with your sim | 08:51 |
| @juiceme | yes, that is best. AFAIK the repartitioining script will check the space allocation on MyDocs and refuse to partitonit if there is too much stuff there, but how I didi it myself, is I backed everything up and emptied it just to be sure. | 08:51 |
| @juiceme | have you had that warning before? maybe it's a bad contact? | 08:52 |
| valdur55 | Nope. | 08:52 |
| valdur55 | Now, it i it booting normaly. | 08:52 |
| valdur55 | I booted with USB cable and i removed USB before Ubiboot screen ( nokia logo was still on the screen). | 08:54 |
| @juiceme | yes | 08:54 |
| valdur55 | It booted directly to harmattan , and message was before bootvideo. | 08:54 |
| @juiceme | the sim card warning? strange, as I think it only accesses sim after the boot video. | 08:55 |
| @juiceme | could be wrong though. | 08:55 |
| valdur55 | Ok. I can't reproduce it again :( | 08:59 |
| @juiceme | one-time glitch. sometimes those just happen... | 09:00 |
| valdur55 | Got another funny thing: No mobile network. | 09:02 |
| valdur55 | I removed sim durning boot | 09:03 |
| @juiceme | and did you put it back? :) | 09:03 |
| valdur55 | yes. After boot ending. | 09:03 |
| valdur55 | I use custom boot video, :) | 09:04 |
| @juiceme | and it seemingly registered OK, asked for pin code etc..? | 09:05 |
| valdur55 | No pin code :P And this is normal. | 09:06 |
| @juiceme | okay. yes of course, if you use Nitdroid you need to remove the PIN. | 09:06 |
| valdur55 | Ok. 5 min till to downlaod :P | 09:06 |
| valdur55 | Good: 3,5 GB data in my MyDocs ... I make full backup to DVD :) | 09:15 |
| valdur55 | I am lazy :) | 09:16 |
| @juiceme | :) | 09:16 |
| @juiceme | hmm, again somebody's been busy... "zypper up" says 276 packages to upgrade, 37 new, 9 to remove. | 09:23 |
| @juiceme | :) | 09:23 |
| @juiceme | Nemo's like Ubuntu, so many updated popping up all the time you cannot possibly track them all... | 09:24 |
| @juiceme | s/updated/updates | 09:24 |
| valdur55 | Oh.. Nemo is better :) | 09:29 |
| @juiceme | sure :) but I run Ubuntu on most of my desktops (10.04 or 12.04) | 09:30 |
| valdur55 | Same here... but i use Xubuntu. | 09:30 |
| valdur55 | And mint :) | 09:30 |
| @juiceme | and Debian on my servers... | 09:31 |
| valdur55 | ' | 09:31 |
| @juiceme | Mint, well yes I have tried it. | 09:31 |
| @juiceme | not bad, but still somehow I end up installing Ubuntu :) | 09:31 |
| @juiceme | but I use CairoDoc as my desktop env. | 09:32 |
| valdur55 | For holding app launcher icons? | 09:32 |
| valdur55 | I use Synapse for that. :) | 09:33 |
| @juiceme | yes, I hide the default Ubuntu launcher which I think is not that pretty | 09:33 |
| valdur55 | Even with GNome Shell I used synapse as applications launcher. | 09:34 |
| @juiceme | I'd love to run pure debian on desktop too but it'd get too much of a hazzle, as I'd need to have unstable anyway. Ubuntu handles the dependencies fairly well and has the latest toolchains, for example armel cross compiler which is too old in base debian stable :( | 09:35 |
| valdur55 | Damn... I should reconfigure E17 desktop env... | 09:36 |
| valdur55 | I liked it very much. | 09:36 |
| @juiceme | also the multiscreen handling works nice, I usually have 2 screens desktop | 09:36 |
| valdur55 | But it had bad memory handling... | 09:37 |
| @juiceme | at the workstation I use most, that is. rest are laptops. | 09:37 |
| @juiceme | haven't used that, is it buggy or just memory-hungry? | 09:37 |
| valdur55 | Switching betweeen virtual desktops added used memory ... | 09:37 |
| valdur55 | Memory bug :) | 09:38 |
| @juiceme | those should be 1st priority bugfixes, always. | 09:38 |
| valdur55 | yea. i was too laxy to fix it :P. I jumped back to working xfce env. | 09:39 |
| @juiceme | :) | 09:39 |
| @juiceme | allright, Nemo updated. time to boot up and see what the good folk have updated :) :) | 09:40 |
| valdur55 | :) | 09:41 |
| @juiceme | ahh, I got to the same stage as the release version I cautioned you against :( | 09:43 |
| @juiceme | seems there are lot of preliminary changes for the upcoming switch from X to Wayland... and some other things not quite integrated yet. | 09:44 |
| @juiceme | yes, the contacts bug is there... bummer. | 09:45 |
| @juiceme | word of warning... do not update the device yet, Nemo seems to be in a transitional stage. | 09:46 |
| @juiceme | back to Harmattan then. | 09:48 |
| valdur55 | juiceme: I tought same :) | 09:48 |
| valdur55 | We end up with same stage | 09:48 |
| @juiceme | but the good thing is, I know there will be updates pretty soon :) | 09:49 |
| @juiceme | usually fixes come really fast when something's broken, _unlike_ in Harmattan | 09:49 |
| valdur55 | :) | 09:53 |
| @juiceme | I need to run to a meeting... see ya. | 09:55 |
| valdur55 | juiceme: bye! | 09:57 |
| valdur55 | Good. Booted into moslo :) | 10:30 |
| valdur55 | installing rootfs :) | 10:33 |
| valdur55 | Lol. I didn't noticed -k flag in flasher command. And that is the reason why I asked about Harmattan rootfs flashing. | 10:34 |
| valdur55 | Btw. I used not recommended way . I didn't flash it into device, I just loaded Moslo with flasher :) | 10:35 |
| valdur55 | I am too lazy to flash ububoot kernel again. | 10:36 |
| valdur55 | Booting :) | 10:37 |
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| valdur55 | Good. I update on weekend :P | 12:48 |
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| thedead1440 | today is a sad day; I have to for the first time in >18months stop using my N9s :( Both of them have borked USB ports | 20:51 |
| thedead1440 | Main N9's usb port is totally screwed so device is useless. While for backup device suddenly it only charges device. No data transfer or anything can be done hence no flashing of phone too... | 20:51 |
| * thedead1440 goes to sleep while crying softly into his pillow... | 20:51 | |
| valdur55 | Sad. I have almost same problem. | 21:17 |
| valdur55 | USB port is ~broken. | 21:17 |
| @juiceme | thedead1440, I'm so sorry :( | 21:45 |
| @juiceme | damn those USB ports, first N900 and now starting to break on N9'es too... | 21:46 |
| @juiceme | I wonder if N9 USB could be solder-hardened too? | 21:46 |
| valdur55 | My phone is 1 year + some days old. | 21:51 |
| @juiceme | have you ever dropped it while it's been connected? | 21:51 |
| valdur55 | Maybe... | 21:52 |
| valdur55 | Main problem is harder USB cable. | 21:53 |
| valdur55 | And it's head is magnetic. So.. It pushes plug to magnet. | 21:54 |
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| Jonni | soldering replacement usb port to those main small pads is quite a tricky thing and requires steady hand and microscope | 22:55 |
| @juiceme | so the pads are smaller than on N900? | 22:56 |
| Jonni | but not all hope is lost, if you look the schematics, there is usb debug pads in the other side of the motherboard that are 2mm a piece, you can solder replacement there if you do some wire trickery. | 22:56 |
| @juiceme | :) | 22:57 |
| Jonni | so you can still make those devices work. I got one N9 that my collegue dropped on floor while usb cable connected, and he was throwing it in carbage bin, and I said that I can take it :). After few tricky hours with soldering iron, I got a free working n9 :) | 22:59 |
| @juiceme | skill makes the difference :) | 23:00 |
| Jonni | and believe me, I | 23:00 |
| Jonni | I'm not a skillfull with soldering iron, mostly I can change blown caps since they are so big and easy to replace. | 23:01 |
| Jonni | but sometimes I get lucky, and my hand gets better over time | 23:02 |
| @juiceme | well, I've changed pfqp's with just iron, solder and sock... | 23:02 |
| @juiceme | its not that bad, you just need a small tip and magnifier :) | 23:03 |
| Jonni | thedead1440: just google search for "Nokia_N9-00_SM_L12_SCH.rar" and look the pad locations :) | 23:04 |
| Jonni | schematics page 11, J3300 (vbus), J3301 (txd), J3302 (rxd) and J3303 (gnd) | 23:10 |
| Jonni | that reminds me that I should tweak one of my N9's usb port, and nowadays I even have usb microscope so I could take some pics | 23:45 |
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