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| @juiceme | So did you have older ubiboot tre and updated, or first-time installation? | 00:07 |
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| @juiceme | did you remember to put in the preinits? That is fairly common thing to forget. | 00:08 |
| @juiceme | some guidelines; (for 0.3.5 version); If you get a green text saying "cannot find menu" or "cannot find kernel" or somethong lke this, then tha failing is placement of kernels, for example. | 00:10 |
| @juiceme | If you can select from menu, and bang it just hangs, no green texts on screen, then it means that the 2nd stage kernel has been loaded and booted correctly and the problem is next step in the chain. | 00:11 |
| @juiceme | the next step troblems are; 1.) init/preinit files missing or with wrong permissions. 2.) modules missing or module dependencies not created. | 00:12 |
| @juiceme | as for logs; prior to version 0.3.5 the log files were saved to /var/log/ of harmattan root (mmcblk0p2). 0.3.5 introduced the configurable log file location, where default is /boot/ of mmcblk0p1, which is /home/user/MyDocs/boot/ in Harmattan. | 00:15 |
| qwazix_ | sorry, I was afk | 00:50 |
| qwazix_ | preinits are there, I have to check permissions though | 00:50 |
| qwazix_ | It's a first time installation | 00:50 |
| qwazix_ | I unfortunately can't find logs in either place (tried changing the configuration too) | 00:51 |
| @juiceme | that's pretty strange as the logs are sure written to disk when the devic loads up the 2nd stage kernel. | 00:54 |
| @juiceme | just to make sure, what was the version you installed, it should be ubiboot-02_0.3.5_301013.tar | 00:56 |
| qwazix_ | sec | 00:56 |
| qwazix_ | exact error message is | 00:57 |
| qwazix_ | Boot OS/kernel selection failed! | 00:57 |
| qwazix_ | please run a maintenance boot | 00:57 |
| qwazix_ | ubiboot is 0.3.5_301013 | 00:58 |
| @juiceme | Okay, you do get an error message. That one means that you have propably a typo in your ubiboot.conf | 00:59 |
| qwazix_ | let me try with vanilla ubiboot.conf | 00:59 |
| @juiceme | So, for example Harmattan; You need to have the kernel in /boot/ directory on mmcblk0p2 (Harmattan root partition) | 01:00 |
| qwazix_ | kernel is there | 01:00 |
| qwazix_ | zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix | 01:01 |
| @juiceme | then, you need to have the pat correct; | 01:01 |
| qwazix_ | pat? | 01:01 |
| @juiceme | you need to have, forex. G_OS2_1_FILE="/boot/Harmattan/boot/zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix" | 01:01 |
| @juiceme | path i mean | 01:02 |
| qwazix_ | I have the default ubiboot.conf | 01:02 |
| @juiceme | and the lable for it to ho, for example G_OS2_1_LABEL="openmode L2fixed kernel" or hatever | 01:02 |
| qwazix_ | G_OS2_3_FILE is exactly like that | 01:02 |
| @juiceme | okay | 01:03 |
| qwazix_ | does it make a difference that it's 3 instead of 1? | 01:03 |
| qwazix_ | sorry 4 | 01:03 |
| @juiceme | no, that just means the number of rows in the menu | 01:03 |
| qwazix_ | okay, let me try again | 01:03 |
| @juiceme | but you need to have the key G_OS2_NUM to set how many rows you are showing | 01:04 |
| @juiceme | and also G_OS2_PARTITION=2 unless you have Harmattan on some other partition | 01:04 |
| qwazix_ | yep 2 it is | 01:05 |
| @juiceme | okay. | 01:05 |
| qwazix_ | (is it possible to be different in a N9 variant?) | 01:05 |
| qwazix_ | I just full flashed PR001 | 01:05 |
| @juiceme | no, with current core all variants work. | 01:06 |
| @juiceme | ?? HMM | 01:06 |
| @juiceme | ah, it is not PR1.3? | 01:06 |
| qwazix_ | yep it is, PR001 is the finnish variant | 01:06 |
| qwazix_ | DLF_blablabla_PR001 | 01:06 |
| @juiceme | well, then it is possible that the kernel zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix does not work | 01:07 |
| qwazix_ | I mean it is PR1.3 | 01:07 |
| @juiceme | or at least you need to update /lib/modules/whatever | 01:07 |
| @juiceme | ah, OOK then ti will work | 01:07 |
| @juiceme | for a moment you had me taken there... I have not really tested this other than PR1.3 since it is a pain to get the older versions from anywhere... :) | 01:08 |
| qwazix_ | yeah, 001 is the variant | 01:09 |
| @juiceme | but what ai was saying, You need to check the name correctly matches the file... easy to make mistake with underscores re dashes, foex. | 01:09 |
| qwazix_ | DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin | 01:10 |
| @juiceme | well, IF there still was variant-related problems, (which there isn't anymore, hopefully) those would come up later, in 2nd-phase boot | 01:10 |
| qwazix_ | okay | 01:10 |
| qwazix_ | let me check once again, but I'm pretty sure paths are right | 01:11 |
| qwazix_ | mostly because I didn't change anything | 01:11 |
| @juiceme | what I am woried is, where are the logfiles... | 01:11 |
| qwazix_ | I have no logfiles, in MyDocs/boot | 01:12 |
| @juiceme | you have the standard partition layout: 1=MyDocs, 2=rootfs, 3=home, 4=ALT_OS ? | 01:12 |
| qwazix_ | that's a good question, let me check | 01:12 |
| @juiceme | and you DO have your ubiboot.conf in your MyDocs/boot? | 01:12 |
| qwazix_ | yeah, and it's working. Tried to change number of lines just to test and it worked | 01:13 |
| @juiceme | well unless you have repartitioned by hand you cannot really have any other partition layout :) | 01:13 |
| @juiceme | that is damn strange. | 01:13 |
| @juiceme | what about the log file settings in you conf? | 01:13 |
| @juiceme | default is | 01:14 |
| qwazix_ | let's take it from scratch | 01:14 |
| @juiceme | G_LOGFILE_PARTITION="1" | 01:14 |
| @juiceme | GG_LOGFILE_DIRECTORY="/boot" | 01:14 |
| qwazix_ | yep, that's what I have | 01:14 |
| @juiceme | sorry, the last one is G_LOGFILE_DIRECTORY="/boot" | 01:14 |
| @juiceme | okay | 01:14 |
| qwazix_ | kernel is in rootfs, /boot | 01:14 |
| @juiceme | yes | 01:15 |
| qwazix_ | filename exactly the same with the .conf | 01:15 |
| @juiceme | yes | 01:15 |
| qwazix_ | conf has /boot/Harmattan/boot/zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix | 01:15 |
| qwazix_ | in line 4 | 01:15 |
| @juiceme | yes | 01:16 |
| qwazix_ | also Alt_OS contains nemo now | 01:16 |
| qwazix_ | nemo in .conf unchanged from default | 01:16 |
| @juiceme | have you any difference when trying to boot Nemo? | 01:16 |
| qwazix_ | no, same thing | 01:16 |
| @juiceme | same warning in green text | 01:16 |
| @juiceme | ? | 01:17 |
| qwazix_ | yep | 01:17 |
| qwazix_ | I did create a symlink in /lib/modules/zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix but no difference | 01:17 |
| @juiceme | should not be necessary | 01:17 |
| @juiceme | modules re picked automatically from the kernel ID string anyway | 01:18 |
| qwazix_ | hmmm... | 01:18 |
| qwazix_ | sec | 01:18 |
| @juiceme | but your problem is related to not finding the expexted lernel file... | 01:18 |
| @juiceme | if yo only had the logs, it would tell you what is the name/location it is looking for... | 01:19 |
| qwazix_ | preinits are there | 01:20 |
| @juiceme | problem of preinits would only be case, if you did not get any warning in green text | 01:20 |
| @juiceme | one thing just came to my mind, have you rtied booting the device without the cable in place? | 01:21 |
| qwazix_ | where should preinits be when I telnet in? | 01:21 |
| qwazix_ | yep | 01:21 |
| qwazix_ | several times | 01:21 |
| @juiceme | okay.. because if you first go to maintatance mode, then remove cable it will show up menu but sometimes fals to boot after selection. (or used to, the latest version should work with that too) | 01:22 |
| qwazix_ | I can see preinits via exported rootfs, but not via telnet | 01:22 |
| @juiceme | preinits should be in /sbin/preinit_harmattan, for example. on the harmattan rootfs | 01:23 |
| @juiceme | when you telnet in, you see only the ubiboot rootfs by default | 01:23 |
| @juiceme | all mmcblk partitions are needed to ount first before you can access them | 01:23 |
| @juiceme | that's the reason for the /boot/Harmattan/boot notaton | 01:24 |
| @juiceme | as for example /dev/mmcblk0p2/ is mounted at ubiboot /mnt/2 | 01:24 |
| @juiceme | and the there's a symling harmattan -> /mnt/2 in boot | 01:25 |
| qwazix_ | permissions seem okay | 01:25 |
| @juiceme | execute on and root-owned | 01:25 |
| qwazix_ | yep | 01:25 |
| @juiceme | but as I said, your problems are caused by something much earlier | 01:26 |
| @juiceme | you're now in telnet? | 01:26 |
| qwazix_ | in telnet I cannot see symlinks in /boot/ | 01:26 |
| @juiceme | strange | 01:26 |
| qwazix_ | and ls /mnt/2 outputs nothing | 01:26 |
| @juiceme | wel lthat's okay | 01:27 |
| @juiceme | as you have the USB export on | 01:27 |
| qwazix_ | ah okay | 01:27 |
| @juiceme | you need to first disable export: | 01:27 |
| @juiceme | echo "" > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/lun0/file | 01:27 |
| @juiceme | (forst umount partition from PC, or else it will fail) | 01:27 |
| @juiceme | then do mount /dev/mmcblk0p2/ /mnt/2 | 01:28 |
| qwazix_ | ok | 01:28 |
| @juiceme | after that you'll see the harmattan rootfs under /mnt/2 | 01:28 |
| @juiceme | but sthe missing symlinks... | 01:28 |
| @juiceme | hey, do cat /etc/ubiboot_version | 01:29 |
| @juiceme | what does it say? | 01:29 |
| qwazix_ | 0.3.3 | 01:30 |
| qwazix_ | ?? | 01:30 |
| @juiceme | that's the thing!!!! | 01:30 |
| @juiceme | you're got 0.3.3 kernel and 0.3.5 config+CPIO | 01:30 |
| @juiceme | wont work | 01:31 |
| qwazix_ | ah... | 01:31 |
| @juiceme | now how's that possible? | 01:31 |
| qwazix_ | I probably downloaded the wrong zImage | 01:31 |
| @juiceme | it's too bad there is cross-checking the versions but it works only upwards from 0.3.4 kernel :( | 01:32 |
| qwazix_ | but there isn't any other zImage on swagman.org/juice/ubiboot/ubiboot-02 | 01:32 |
| @juiceme | you'd seen it on the green-text message... | 01:32 |
| @juiceme | ah allright | 01:33 |
| qwazix_ | duh, it's in the tar file | 01:33 |
| @juiceme | it is inside the TARfile :() | 01:33 |
| @juiceme | yes | 01:33 |
| * qwazix_ headdesks | 01:33 | |
| * juiceme slaps qwazix_ on the back | 01:33 | |
| @juiceme | well, flashing's quick | 01:34 |
| @juiceme | the format of the config changes usually with the kerenl revisioning, that's the reason it failed | 01:34 |
| qwazix_ | flashed | 01:35 |
| @juiceme | the kernel name keystring that init expects to see is different, and as you saw, the symlinks are not created... | 01:35 |
| qwazix_ | :nod: | 01:35 |
| @juiceme | should work now | 01:35 |
| qwazix_ | let's see... | 01:36 |
| @juiceme | I should have implemented strict version checking from the start... | 01:36 |
| qwazix_ | black screen, led on | 01:36 |
| qwazix_ | led off | 01:36 |
| qwazix_ | dead | 01:36 |
| qwazix_ | let me try nemo | 01:36 |
| @juiceme | did you get the menus at all? | 01:37 |
| qwazix_ | yeah, menus ok | 01:37 |
| @juiceme | and after that? | 01:37 |
| qwazix_ | chose harmattan openmode l2 fix | 01:37 |
| @juiceme | yse | 01:37 |
| @juiceme | yes | 01:37 |
| qwazix_ | and after that black screen | 01:37 |
| @juiceme | well it takes some time to boot | 01:37 |
| qwazix_ | nemo boots | 01:37 |
| @juiceme | Harmattan is slow beast to boot up | 01:37 |
| qwazix_ | harmattan died on me | 01:38 |
| @juiceme | good for Nemo ) | 01:38 |
| qwazix_ | I'll try again | 01:38 |
| @juiceme | let it boot up, might take up to 30min | 01:38 |
| @juiceme | no sec, i mean | 01:38 |
| qwazix_ | (!) | 01:38 |
| @juiceme | 30sec | 01:38 |
| qwazix_ | ah ok | 01:38 |
| qwazix_ | ok I'm not choosing anything, let it boot to default | 01:39 |
| qwazix_ | black screen now | 01:39 |
| @juiceme | especially if you just flashed it, the first boot after a rootfs&emmc flash takes AGES | 01:39 |
| qwazix_ | nokia logo | 01:39 |
| @juiceme | :) | 01:39 |
| qwazix_ | yeay | 01:39 |
| qwazix_ | million thanks! | 01:39 |
| @juiceme | np :) | 01:39 |
| qwazix_ | I owe you a beer | 01:40 |
| @juiceme | I'd gadly accept it :) | 01:40 |
| qwazix_ | Next time I'll be in finland I'll make sure I buy you one | 01:40 |
| @juiceme | do tell me when you're coming :) | 01:40 |
| qwazix_ | or if you'd like to try a warmer climate and come to .gr for vacation :) | 01:41 |
| @juiceme | where are you currently now? | 01:41 |
| qwazix_ | Greece | 01:41 |
| @juiceme | I'd love to, the weather is particulary lousy now | 01:41 |
| @juiceme | mmm... Greece :) | 01:41 |
| qwazix_ | yeah but you got a Jolla | 01:41 |
| @juiceme | any good divein there where you live? | 01:41 |
| @juiceme | diving, i mean | 01:42 |
| @juiceme | true, it is good we have something to warm up us here in north :) | 01:42 |
| qwazix_ | beach is ~45 min by car from here, sure you'll find somewhere you can dive | 01:43 |
| qwazix_ | but in Dec it's cold even here | 01:43 |
| @juiceme | it is still somewhat a rarity, just today I came over by train from Helsinki and people wee saring at my shiny toy :) | 01:43 |
| * qwazix_ is jealous | 01:43 | |
| @juiceme | :) | 01:43 |
| @juiceme | but you could do the RzR's jolla hack over Nemo | 01:44 |
| @juiceme | I've been told it is just like the real thing | 01:44 |
| qwazix_ | imagine what will happen here, where no-one's even heard of it | 01:44 |
| @juiceme | and there _are_ advantages using N9, it fits berrer in hand and it has LPS | 01:44 |
| @juiceme | they would not know what it is, would propably mistake it for some Sony's andreoid device... | 01:45 |
| qwazix_ | yeah, like they do with the Z10 | 01:45 |
| qwazix_ | everybody is asking what Xperia model it is | 01:46 |
| @juiceme | not too many even know z10 here, it's nice but only sold in some select shops | 01:46 |
| @juiceme | I've never seen anybody having it in real life, even as I have tested it in store | 01:47 |
| qwazix_ | It's a nice device | 01:47 |
| @juiceme | every other one has some form of Lumia | 01:47 |
| @juiceme | and the rest are Apple / samsung | 01:47 |
| qwazix_ | Here lumias are a rarity, quite a lot xperias after apple/samsung | 01:48 |
| @juiceme | BTW, actually at the Jolla/DNA gala, I saw more N9's around than ever in one place :) | 01:48 |
| qwazix_ | hehe, I saw more N950's than ever at slush12 | 01:49 |
| qwazix_ | (i even got a photo somewhere) | 01:49 |
| * juiceme is jealous | 01:50 | |
| @juiceme | I have never seen/touched a N950 | 01:50 |
| qwazix_ | It's a gorgeous device, but it does have it's problems. Harmattan was clearly not designed for it | 01:50 |
| @juiceme | What I have understood is that the display is an underperformer | 01:51 |
| qwazix_ | display is not very good, not too bad either, big showstopper is buggy keyboard support | 01:52 |
| @juiceme | that's strange, is it HW or SW related? I'd expect the keyboard was the prt that works OK | 01:52 |
| qwazix_ | capitalisation doesn't work correctly (if you type fast it capitalises the second letter for example) | 01:52 |
| qwazix_ | doesn't work with accents in Qt apps for some reason | 01:53 |
| qwazix_ | it's software | 01:53 |
| qwazix_ | hardware wise the keyboard is awesome, | 01:53 |
| @juiceme | okay, I assume that's propably as the developers were really geared to tune up N9 for launch, so bits and pieces were left unfinished on N950 | 01:54 |
| qwazix_ | exactly | 01:54 |
| qwazix_ | for example if you start typing in the homescreen it launches the search app, which is only in portrait | 01:54 |
| @juiceme | I had E7 before N9, and the kbd in it was excellent to use, only the mechanism was too tight to open fith slippery hands | 01:55 |
| @juiceme | :D | 01:55 |
| qwazix_ | N950 is even worse | 01:55 |
| qwazix_ | it is impossible to open it with one hand | 01:55 |
| qwazix_ | you have to press really hard, or better lift the backside | 01:55 |
| qwazix_ | (but I kinda like that quirk) | 01:56 |
| @juiceme | there should be some kind of recession to put you r finger on, the halves sit too tight I think | 01:56 |
| qwazix_ | nobody can imagine it has a keyboard when closed | 01:56 |
| @juiceme | that's true | 01:56 |
| @juiceme | it looks as solid as N8 | 01:56 |
| qwazix_ | though mine after quite some use now it has a tiny bit of slack | 01:57 |
| @juiceme | Maybe I'll get chance to buy ons sometime, the devices on ebay are obsessively expensive but sometimes people are ready to sell for a reasonable fee :) | 01:58 |
| @juiceme | but really, Jolla with kbd-OH will do me fine :) | 01:59 |
| qwazix_ | my advice, don't spend money on N950 | 02:00 |
| qwazix_ | I wouldn't sell mine, but I wouldn't buy one, unless it was super cheap, just for the sake of it | 02:00 |
| qwazix_ | N9 is a much better everyday device | 02:00 |
| @juiceme | that's like I thought myself | 02:01 |
| @juiceme | When I tell it to myself enough many tiimes I will start to belive it :) | 02:01 |
| qwazix_ | hehe | 02:01 |
| @juiceme | :) | 02:01 |
| qwazix_ | let's hope there will be a keyboard other half | 02:02 |
| @juiceme | but yes, N9 is a wonderful device, and it has been my best device ever. (up to now, at least... let's see how I fare with Jolla..) | 02:02 |
| qwazix_ | I love the N900 a bit better, but it wasn't a good phone | 02:03 |
| @juiceme | It won't be mechanically as robust as E7/N950 construction, but if it is usable it will do. | 02:03 |
| qwazix_ | as a pocket computer however, there's nothing like it | 02:03 |
| @juiceme | have yuou ordered a Neo900 yet? | 02:03 |
| qwazix_ | not yet, but I will | 02:04 |
| @juiceme | I thought about it a wile but I never got so lovebitten with N900 that it would have been esssetial | 02:04 |
| @juiceme | I have never had N900 myself | 02:05 |
| qwazix_ | I got the N900 without having a clue about linux | 02:05 |
| qwazix_ | I was so impressed with it's capabilities | 02:05 |
| @juiceme | some coworkers have, and I have briefly tested those but you cannot learn to love it so quickly if it isn't your own device | 02:05 |
| qwazix_ | true that | 02:05 |
| @juiceme | but yes... I am fairly tired... should go to bed soon | 02:07 |
| @juiceme | have been up from 05 this morning... | 02:07 |
| qwazix_ | It's the only device I know it can replace a laptop on the go | 02:07 |
| qwazix_ | yeah, it's getting late | 02:07 |
| qwazix_ | million thanks again | 02:07 |
| @juiceme | athens in on same TZ as helsinki, if I remember correctly? | 02:08 |
| qwazix_ | yup | 02:08 |
| @juiceme | righto | 02:08 |
| @juiceme | but good you got it working now, happy playing with it :) | 02:08 |
| qwazix_ | thx | 02:08 |
| @juiceme | night! | 02:09 |
| qwazix_ | o/ | 02:09 |
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| valdur55 | thedead1440__: what is happening? | 10:40 |
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| thedead1440__ | valdur55: sorry no idea what's gone wrong | 11:13 |
| thedead1440__ | I joined/quit several times? I am using quassel via the phone so no idea what's wrong on the core at my server. Will check it once free | 11:14 |
| valdur55 | yea. | 11:17 |
| valdur55 | watch your nickane ;) | 11:17 |
| valdur55 | nickname* | 11:17 |
| thedead1440__ | I have two cores; one on server and one on home so nothing wrong with two instances connected ;) | 11:18 |
| thedead1440__ | At home it uses smuxi which doesn't have a mobile app while the server one is quassel so that I can use it on mobile. I hate irssi hence this... | 11:19 |
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| valdur55 | ok :) I have screen & irssi session in blinkenshell | 11:19 |
| thedead1440_ | Well I just can't love irssi+screen when quasseldroid is available :D | 11:21 |
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| b2h | pls help i am newbie after succesful boot to android, firefox and harmattan i am stuck with nemo always black screen after boot to nemo i am following guide on ubiboot wiki . thx for advise | 17:38 |
| @juiceme | b2h, hi | 18:05 |
| @juiceme | So you just installed Nemo, and have not yet got it working? | 18:05 |
| valdur55 | b2h: use newer image | 18:06 |
| b2h | yup juiceme its not working after choose nemo always black screen | 18:07 |
| @juiceme | ok, what's the Nemo version yo are trying to install? | 18:20 |
| @juiceme | and did you do the tarfile rxtraction on device or external computer? | 18:20 |
| b2h | i following guide on ubiboot wiki i extract from external computer linux os | 18:21 |
| @juiceme | the image that's on the page pointed by the guide is fairly old, from june | 18:24 |
| @juiceme | there are later images, though you'd need to search a bit.. you could ask on #nemomobile where to get latest image | 18:25 |
| b2h | oh ok i will try with newer image thx for ur advise | 18:25 |
| @juiceme | :) | 18:25 |
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